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Even before north korea had nuclear weapons. the view then was that escalation would be terrible. look, we're talking about two types of north korean missile activities. one is a test, one is an actual strike on the united states. the north koreans don't have the capability to hit the united states at the moment, but they're working irrevocably and at speed. what we can see in the next few weeks or months is a test of a very long-range missile. then the united states has to decide what to do. there's been talk of americans trying to shoot down that missile. there is a weapon called the egis-3 ...

Reports, can shoot down an icbm test in its ascend phase. whether that's possible, i don't know. that's all classified material. i'm not even sure if that weapon exists in deployable form yet. if such a thing happens, obviously, yeah, a miscalculation could lead to escalation, even if both parties don't want to escalate. >> all right. martin, discussing some of the potential implications here of this ratcheting up of tensions on the korean peninsula. thank you very much, martin, for your analysis there. >> thank you. >> and i'm going to turn now to natalie and george at cnn headquarters. >> th...