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Maybe mueller doesn't have any proof of a crime, but why do they keep lying about russia and concealing things around russia the way the president and people around him do, if there's nothing to hide? >> some people -- i used to have a client would lie when the truth would do. it may be that it's that. it may be he's just playing games. i don't know. i'm not going to speculate here. but i think it is from a policy standpoint and from an operation standpoint, a disaster. >> but also politically. i mean, look at roger stone. white house comes back, it has nothing to do with the president. it can...

>> i used to have a client that would lie when the truth would do. it may be that it's that. he's just playing games. i don't know. i'm not going to speculate here. but it is from a policy standpoint a disaster. >> look at roger stone. this has nothing to do with the president. it can't have nothing to do with the president. forget about the obvious that it's his campaign. >> it actually can have nothing to do with the president. >> it's his campaign. >> that indictment suggests the nonexistence of a conspiracy. >> how? >> two ways. you know the paragraph that everybody said to go ask assange ...

Jerry corsi to contact julian assange to ask assange to move up or move back his data dump to distract the attention from that, that's a fairytale. i learned about it at 4:00 in the afternoon like every other american. i was on the street in manhattan. >> laura: there's no text evidence or e-mail evidence regarding the billy bush claim. nothing definitive about the other claim about advance knowledge. there's just one e-mail from you to corsi from july 25, 2016. then this is from the draft court papers. get to at the ecuadorian embassy and get the pending wick leaks