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It is an impeachment process, it is going to go to a senate trial. and bill barr and the doj cannot stop that from happening. so why put your approval on what is happening. i wouldn't touch it if i were him either. >> josh, will the hill ask barr to testify? >> i wouldn't be surprised if they did ask him to testify, but i don't think like other officials that he will be willing to do that. i also want to underscore i think one of the problems is that the white house wanted a full exoneration of the president and the justice department even to this point while they did ask for the narrow statem...

We already know his name was mentioned in that july 25th haspel cacall repeatedly. his name has been brought up to zelensky and other ukrainian officials and he said i have not spoken about this. the reason why is there is criminality on all this. that is why the doj is going to distance itself. this has now transcended just a political battle. also, richard, i would say part of the reason you don't see barr getting involved is you can't stop this train. barr cannot stop this train. it's an impeachment process. it's going to go to a senate trial. there will be articles of impeachment. and bill...