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The focus on the rachel jeantel. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial? >> yes. >> that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so, it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> bill: after that al sharpton said. this. >> the attacks that i have heard on rachel jeantel have been nothing short of offensive to any american that wants to see young people, teenagers, people that are minors do the righ...

>> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> hmm, welcome back to our panel now. also joining us now, michael, the editor in chief of global grind and michelle oliver joins us, as well. so michael, were you surprised at all that rachel jeantel did not see this as racist, "creepy ass cracker?" >> no the word cracker comes from the word that means loud noise. the crackers were the guys that whipped the slaves. if you look at it compare it to the "n" word, there's a huge difference in the use of both of those words. the ...

Offense. crazy ass cracker. yesterday we had that conversation. it was open, honest, it was provocative. so much so that we want to play it again for you right now. and i do want to warn you. the language was raw. we used certain words like the "n" word the entire word but it's a conversation we felt needed to be had. here it is. >> it's socially provibted and individually and institutionally. it's policed by authorities that punish people like we're seeing with paula deen and maybe even in the courtroom of the zimmerman courtroom. so the taboo words that are out there and what helps the power...

Let me make sure we got that, creepy -- >> ass cracker. >> yeah. and then i call trayvon and i started hearing trayvon get off, get off. >> let me stop you a second. you heard a grass sound and then you said something. what did you say? >> trayvon, trayvon. >> and what did you hear? >> i said trayvon, i heard him say get off. get off. >> then what did you hear? >> then the phone hung up. it shut off. >> okay. when the phone shut off, what happened then? >> i had to call him back. >> you called trayvon back? >> yes. >> were you able to get him? >> no. >> so it turns out listening to rachael's t...

Let me make sure we got that, creepy -- >> ass cracker. >> yeah. and then i call trayvon and i started hearing trayvon get off, get off. >> let me stop you a second. you heard a grass sound and then you said something. what did you say? >> trayvon, trayvon. what's going on? >> and what did you hear? >> i said trayvon, i heard him say get off. get off. >> then what did you hear? >> then the phone hung up. it shut off. >> okay. when the phone shut off, what happened then? >> i had to call him back. >> you called trayvon back? >> yes. >> were you able to get him? >> no. >> so it turns out listeni...