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You have the gang violence across america. 50% high school graduation rate for african-americans in most urban centers including like chicago, las vegas, 50%, do you have -- if you don't have a high school diploma, you are like -- your likelihood of being unemployed goes way up. 40% youth unemployment in washington, d.c., for african-american youth. why aren't those issues the ones that could be -- trigger to actually get something done that could change -- >> exactly. >> why is it okay then for trayvon to call zimmerman a creepy ass cracker? do you think that's very nice? >> i don't think -- ...

You have the gang violence across america. 50% high school graduation rate for african-americans in most urban centers including like chicago, las vegas, 50%, do you have -- if you don't have a high school diploma, you are like -- your likelihood of being unemployed goes way up. 40% youth unemployment in washington, d.c., for african-american youth. why aren't those issues the ones that could be -- trigger to actually get something done that could change -- >> exactly. >> why is it okay then for trayvon to call zimmerman a creepy ass cracker? do you think that's very nice? >> i don't think -- ...

Made you think it was racial? >> yes. >> and that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this? >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> george zimmerman didn't testify on his own behalf, but perhaps he didn't need to. throughout the trial, we heard seven statements from zimmerman about the shooting and one of them was captured on video. a re-enactment he did with investigators, one day after he shot and killed trayvon...

Means what is in your mind and that's what is important here. >> sean: trayvon's heart creepy ass cracker? that. >> is the way he was talking. [several talking at the same time] >> for joe to get on his feet and jumping up and saying you don't get emotional about. this you are talking about animus. you are talking about ill will. appropriate comment for closing. the most important point though. i think you will agree with me. finally i agree with dr. bae den compelling point. i don't agree with it george zimmerman said that trayvon martin was going for his gun. and he told you that. and there ...

About to hear may be offensive. >> describing the personal is what made you think it was racial? >> yes. >> and that's because you described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so, it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this. >> no. >> you don't think that's a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> george zimmerman didn't testify on his own behalf, but perhaps he didn't need to. throughout the trial we heard seven statements from zimmerman about the shooting and one of them was captured on video, a reenactment ...