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He's going to use some of these chemical weapons. it's desperation. what i think we also are seeing is stronger pressure from some of the other surrounding countries, turkey, qatar, i think the european union is seeing the effects of assad falling and by the way, the use of chemical weapons hasn't happened. they've brought some of the sarin together. >> i wonder if some of these chemical weapons could have been transferred from iraq and lead up to the war. dick cheney said last night, andy, that our alleys no longer trust us and our allies and our enemies no longer fear us. what do you think o...

That happening with assad saying he's going to use some of these chemical weapons. it's desperation. what i think we also are seeing is stronger pressure from some of the other surrounding countries, turkey, qatar, i think the european union is seeing the effects of assad falling and by the way, the use of chemical weapons hasn't happened. they've brought some of the sarin together. >> i wonder if some of these chemical weapons could have been transferred from iraq and lead up to the war. dick cheney said last night, andy, that our alleys no longer trust us and our allies and our enemies no lo...

Almost the opposite, some of lessons, people draw different less sons from what happened in iraq. this administration drew the opposite lessons to dan's. they've looked at syria and tried to think, was there a way to not militarize this conflict? was there a way to play out so it doesn't further produce further military conflict in the region? seems like there's obviously a cost in lives. but that's not -- it's just a very fine calculus, right? if you had been able to find some way for this to end in a -- with assad falling, without having a -- they were trying to get there but it seems like i...

This administration drew some of the opposite lessons to dan's. they looked at syria and try to think was there a way to not militarize this conflict, there was a way that it wouldn't produce further military conflict in the region. if you had been able to find some way for this to end with assad falling, it would have been ideal. >> that was never in the cards. you mentioned egypt. egypt is a largely homogenous society. places like iraq and syria are fundly n fundamentally not. the number of people who could lose their lives o could be greater after assad goes. this is not going to be neat or...

Would hold on to power. at the white house, president obama telephoned russian president vladimir putin. aides said the two agreed on the need to support a political transition as soon as possible. indeed, fox news has confirmed that senior u.s. officials are now bracing for the prospect of assad falling, or regime control of damascus collapsing on a much swifter timetable on previously contemplated. even one as short as 36 hours. >> this is a situation that is rapidly spinning out of control. for that reason, it's extrem extremely important that the national community working with other count...