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We can agree on. high-capacity assault magazines, there's no question that we ought to do something about that. universal background checks, i think the majority of the congress, i hope, certainly, the majority of the american people, are on board. and then dealing with the other -- closing gun sale loopholes, enforcing the laws that we have on the books and supporting local communities, trying to do that. look, the gun violence in flint, michigan, in saginaw, it's handguns and it's youth that don't have a pathway to any kind of positive outcome for themselves. so, what i hope we do is not dec...

Let's start with background checks and then once we do background checks then let's come back and see what is the effect of backgrounds checks -- >> can i just say -- >> congresswoman, please. >> can i add, daniel, i want to give you some hope. i think we can pass much more than just background checks. i think we can pass legislation banning the assault magazines. i think we can do some things with mental health. i think we can close the gun show loophole. i think that there's a lot we can do, and i think it would go a long way. efforts to target republicans in key districts like gabby and her...

People have been killed since the newtown shooting. so we need legislation. we really need to move from the rhetoric to the real concrete. >> right, you know, rev, we need to figure out if our mental health programs are working in this country. we need to look at the background checks and the gun show loopholes. but we also really do need to pass legislation. for example, if you pass the legislation on the assault magazines saying we can't have these magazines with 30 or a hundred clips, then the victims would have a fighting chance to get away from the shooter or, like in gabby gifford's case...

>> well, rev, i've been working on these issues now for about 20 years. and we have a good coalition in the house. we've already reintroduced the magazine and we're getting ready to introduce the companion bill to senator finestein's bill. what we really need, though, is the voices of the american people to be heard. you can not underestimate the lobbying power of the nra in congress. and even my office, even though people know that i am a strong advocate for gun safety legislation, i get calls every day from nra members. and so what really needs to happen to change this debate in washingt was...

Bounds, particularly with the web video, which addressed the president's children? >> i think he's correct. if the congress doesn't get it right, there will be a backlash, and getting it right means to protect the american people and make sure that criminals don't get guns, make sure that the mentally ill don't get guns, and make sure that we protect our second amendment rights. i don't believe for a moment that americans want us to continue to allow people to purchase firearms, people who are criminals to purchase firearms. the background check catches those people, it stops criminals from ge...