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for the paddle and it was useful. >> i will say that pat cipollone did appear voluntarily and answered questions. he did not contradict the testimony of other witnesses. i think we did learn a few things which we will be rolling out in the hearings to come. >> so, there is that and there is also reporting on what could be a big step of obtaining testimony from another figure, steve bannon. what else can you tell us about what mr. pat cipollone told the committee ? >> he was behind closed doors for a significant amount of time . as you heard from congresswoman loughran, and what he ha...

Be conducting either now or in the future, they would essentially have to go through the same process. they might require that they give him a subpoena and out of a quote unquote friendly subpoena and then they would have to grapple with these same issues. the differences that they would likely have the time and the ability to litigate disputed issues of privilege. now, it is interesting that it will be hard for him to assert rutledge and get on those things that i mentioned before. conversations that he had with other people, not the president. also, there are specific instances in which we k...