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Symbolic. >> so the documents and the timeline you just laid out, is that everything that the ways and means committee has in their hands? are they holding anything back? >> well, that is what i was just told from dan kilde, who is a member on the committee. he said it's everything that neal requested. they have to do some heavy redactions because obviously there is personal information included in someone's tax returns. so that's why it might take a little additional time. but it is underlying documents. wonder we should note, it is also work files about any ongoing audits that were happening...

African-americans are delivering straight news. >> we haven't even touched on the network newscasts where there has not been, as carole says, and she was in the anchor chair. let me tie up this by asking you, carole simpson, both of our other guests have mentioned shirley sherrod. there was the controversy over the new black panther party, the justice department case, acorn, skip gates in your city, cambridge, being arrested in his own home. how do you think blacks are covered in the age of obama? >> not well. and i think it's because of the lack of black input. i don't know what's happening o...