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This lifeline. it's just that certain people in congress are choosing not to. >> fair enough. i think, though, we have to -- there is tax policy and there is theory and then there is -- there are politics, which are hard nosed and nasty. and there is fundamentally the idea of cutting or even taxing social benefits or reducing the size of public assistant programs remains a very useful way for certainly some politicians to galvanize some voters to assure people they are somehow doing right by those at the bottom. whether those things hold up to truth is a whole other issue, which i would say th...

I would hope that the house would act to try to stop this cheating and this fraud from continuing. >> house speaker john boehner is angry about what he sees as food stamp fraud. that's not a new thing for republicans, as we've covered extensively here on "all in." many conservatives are convinced there's an epidemic of food stamp fraud. it's everywhere they look and they can't take it anymore. >> meet jason. food stamp recipient. he gets by with a little help from his friends, and you, the taxpayer. >> the fraud which is apparent will the food stamp program. >> 1%. >> i think strings should be...

Argue that these assistant programs increase dependencies and don't help the poor escape poverty. paul ryan put it this way, he said safety net programs threaten to become a hammock that lulls citizens into lives of complacency and dependency. so the bottom line is are they an expensive band-aid rather than a real solution? >> well, they are a real solution and i think john is right, we do need fiscal responsibility. it is fiscally irresponsible for us to cut many of these safety net programs which allow folks to pursue the american dream. think about that young single mother at home depending...

In five americans, the highest number in the nation's history are now receiving entitlesments from the federal government, stuff like food stamps, housing, health care, costing the taxpayers, you and me, about $2.5 trillion every year. in fact, 70% of the entire federal budget is now going toward individual assistant programs. that, again, at their highest level ever. now the danger of this is that it can create a permanent entitlement class, people who get by on the government dole and are content to do that rather than improving themselves. of course, that's not everyone. but free stuff is f...

In five americans, the highest number in the nation's history are now receiving entitlesments from the federal government, stuff like food stamps, housing, health care, costing the taxpayers, you and me, about $2.5 trillion every year. in fact, 70% of the entire federal budget is now going toward individual assistant programs. that, again, at their highest level ever. now the danger of this is that it can create a permanent entitlement class, people who get by on the government dole and are content to do that rather than improving themselves. of course, that's not everyone. but free stuff is f...