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The president has to provide evidence as he's going to be required -- >> let me stop you there. one of the things people are concerned about, donald trump is a norm breaker. he doesn't agree he has to abide by rules and norms. what if a subpoena is issued to president donald j. trump he has to produce evidence and information for the prosecutor and simply says no? >> the prosecutor will go into court and he'll be directed to produce it. i'm sure if this goes to the supreme court under usv nixon, he's not going to have a choice but to provide evidence. >> could donald trump evade all of this by...

Assessment would not only be a departure from the responsibilities but dangerous president damaging to the rule of law. ultimately, richard nixon was not indicted and wanted to let impeachment run the course which of course led to nixon's resignation and pardon by president gerald ford for any and all crimes he might have committed. it's an interesting question into the current president is reaching a critical mass. we've had presidential impeachments and pardons but never in the history of this country has a sitting president been criminally indicted. can a sitting president be charged with a...

As this interview with the president may just be two to three weeks away. the terms being negotiated. >> that's all exactly right. that number more than 20 white house officials not including campaign officials to have sat down with the special counsel's office already is one you and i are focused on right now. thank you very much. back here i'm joined by legal analyst and former assistant special noik ackerman a partner with dorsey and whitney. ladies and gentlemen, you stay with us, i want to ask you nick a question if i can about those comments by the president and the cleanup of sorts by h...

Bring in nick partner at dorsy and whitney and former assistant special watergate prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. tamra and josh are also back with us. let me pull up a piece of what that op-ed says. recused himself from the russia investigation, but it appears he has no control at all of the premier law enforcement agency in the world. it is time for sessions to start managing in a spirit of transparency to bring all of this improper behavior to light and stop further violations. goes on to say if sessions cannot address this issue immediately, then we have one final question meet need...

Wearing a body wire. was playing dial a crook. >> what makes you think that? >> because it took so long. you're talking july, august, september, it's now october. there is no real good reason to have sealed that information and the fact that he was cooperating -- in fact, i think it refers to him, the information as active cooperator. he was out there doing things to prove the truth of what he was telling the prosecutors. and that's what any good prosecutor would do. so with that amount of time going by, and knowing how robert mueller operates, knowing that he knows all the tools at his dispos...