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Why would they do that to themselves and their reputations? >> one of the sad things about the trump administration so far has been to see so many good people have to place themselves in these circumstances where they are complicit and, you know, somehow making excuses for these kind of things. i mean, sean spicer does it every day. you watched when trump was on, you know, his interview with the economist and he claimed to have invented the term, priming the pump. remember steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary, sitting there next to him and presumably endorsing this other bizarre fantasy that ...

So, this is, you know, this is a case where by associating yourself, by -- you're doing -- and i think that people like mcmaster and tillerson are probably patriots who want to do the right thing, but i think what they have to realize is in that case, they really have to play a role in structuring the white house so that you don't have stuff like this happen. tim neftali, the former director of the presidential library, the nixon presidential library, pointed out that a lot of nixon's white house staff actively tried to make sure that a lot of the things nixon said never happened. you know, h....