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>> shouldn't all that be my job? shouldn't i be the one thinking up these very clever things? you know what? how about that, though. you guys do that. let me go write some laws. >> welcome back to "morning joe." donny deutsch and sam stein are still with us. joining the table, presidential historian douglas brinkley. he interviewed president obama for the latest issue of "rolling stone" magazine. very good to have you with us on set. >> thanks for having me. >> let's go back to that shot. t.j., is that a time-lapse shot? is it still dark in washington, d.c.? so when's daylight saving's time en...

Company even offered to waive the fee for suppliers interested in attending the education sessions. >> huh. all right. >> that's terrific. >> mika, can i talk about the really important stuff? last night i was a ronald mcdonald -- i'm sorry. >> no, that's okay. >> i was at a ronald mcdonald charity and met a young man who said he was in your third grade class, and he described you as scrawny, nerdy, quiet and sweet. >> wow! >> how times have changed. >> if you want to hear more about that, well, you can read about it on the cover story of "parade" magazine. who's talking about that? pippa midd...

States. but in ohio, as chuck says, the obama team is looking at even if they're losing some of that support, until those numbers start to dramatically change in the state and tighten up, that's where they feel everything gets won. >> so let's talk about an issue that we haven't heard a whole lot talked about this year. it was talked about four years ago. and i want to ask you guys if we're going to see any residual effects of what happened four years ago. i remember walking around every primary night, and chuck, i would ask you, what do the exit polls look like against hillary clinton and all...

You agree with the fact that even a woman who is raped and basically it's god's will that they should have that baby, that is such a lightning-rod issue, how does obama's campaign not pick up on that and run with it? >> well, they are. and they've been doing that for a couple weeks. even before mourdock, whether there were other issues, things that came out of the debates, contraception, abortion, governor romney's own words. i think the mourdock issue is much more of an association issue. i may like mitt romney, but do you have too many concerns as a woman about the republican party and what ...

If you will, among suburban white women. i think, if i remember correctly, in '08, he sort of won that group by about a point or two. but that is, you know, that's the target swing vote in northern virginia. the target swing vote in the suburbs of colorado. and that's where the question mark is mourdock, right? did the mourdock stuff, in the same way that you saw when the romney campaign frankly panicked over akin so quickly and the entire republican party because at the time the gender gap felt like it was widening, not getting smaller. and just when romney is making some inroads, looking lik...