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Stem jobs act. it is just eerily reminiscent. and what we know is that there's room. we are on the brink of a population crisis. and not only in terms of the decreased birth rates, but last year, we saw net migration from mexico, the largest sending count country, go down to zero. so we are going down in our birthrate and immigration is stalling. what will happen with this country? we need our population growth and it doesn't look like the republicans are going to want it play ball. if they keep putting forward propositions such as the stem act, we're not going to have any advancement on this ...

Propositions such as the stem act, we're not going to have any advancement on this issue. we need comprehensive immigration reform. >> there are different reasons we give immigration bills for immigration. in your view, is there a tension between directing immigration towards our economic needs by bringing the stem folks and towards reuniting families and towards assuring global representation. do these things have to be kind of pit against each other? >> absolutely not, ezra. we absolutely need high-tech skilled workers but we also need