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There is an immediate need here. there's no immediate action on the part of the congress. >> certainly not. the problem needs to be solved in some way. nobody is coming up with a reasonable way to do this. we need to send more down to the border to question the asylum cases. you may be right. president trump and his administration are making things worse than they need to be. i know i'm right. i'm dead on with that. hundreds of people are going to be leave these countries and coming to this country. what do we do? >> we invest in the south american countries to give them less incentive to leav...

Do serve. >> that's an interesting point, elliott. it is meant to be a process, not a punishment. but on the other side of the spectrum some people believe we let them in and hopefully they will show up for their court case. it is worth notice 80% of asylum cases make their court cases, might be 88%. that's not the most serious problem we're solving for. if you weren't using these facilities, elliott, as a deterrent, what would you logistically say we could do better? >> again, one of the things he calls for is alternatives to detention. you put people on ankle bracelets so they can be out in ...

Given president trump's mean spirit and often bigoted attitudes on immigration, it pains me to say this, he is right. democrats might hope that the out of control situation at the southern border undermines trump's image among his base as a tough guy who can tackle immigration. but they should be careful. it could actually work to the president's advantage. since 2014, the flow of asylum seekers town the united states has skyrocketed. last year, immigration courts received 162,000 asylum claims. a 240% increase from 2014. the result is a staggering backlog with more than 300,000 asylum cases p...

That the united states face as crisis with its asylum system. democrats might hope that the out of control situation at the southern border undermines trump's image among his base as a tough guy who can tackle immigration. but they should be careful. it could actually work to the president's advantage. since 2014, the flow of asylum seekers into the united states has skyrocketed. last year, immigration courts received 162,000 asylum claims. a 240% increase from 2014. the result is a staggering backlog with more than 300,000 asylum cases pending and the average immigration case has been pending...

>> yeah, i mean i'm just saying is it possible they've seen more than you? >> you mentioned -- so they note that it's dangerous to send people back to mexico to wait for their asylum cases. but these are the same people who trapsed up through mexico to get here. so that just doesn't really hold water. now, the reality is we do hear cases of those afraid to go back to mexico. consistent with our treaty obligations as a nation, and about 6% of the folks that are being- having to wait in mexico or being considered to wait in mexico are going through that process. so those are being adjudicated. a...