>> there's no doubt, one of the potential tools you could have used, the state department rescinded the sort of third party agreements negotiated, that is if you want to make an asylum plan in the united states and you're not from a border country, make the asylum case first in a border country. from honduras, go to guatemala first. is that a tool that would make your job easier? >> you know, chuck, i don't think there would be very many experts who would say that guatemala is a safe third country. we see tremendous amount of migration from guatemala. some of the concerns that force people to ...