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>> they didn't say that. >> looked like the courts were saying you could sign the agreement with the united states. >> so what the court said, which is a provisional injunction was define the process that has to be followed. as secretary mcaleenan mentioned, define how to do that procedure and we're going to implement it. >> can you explain how this will work? if someone leaves guatemalas and goes to the u.s., what will happen? >> a lot of good things happen. kevin? >> this is a return to the appropriate approach under international law to protecting asylum seekers at the earliest point in the...

Aminu aadministration. >> is the president's executive order legal? >> no. the president's executive order says, okay, you don't want familiar -- kids being separated, we will solve that. say families can be detained together indefinitely. the court in flores decided children cannot be held indefinitely. our constitution prohibits it. the president makes an executive order which is unconstitutional. go to court and try to get them to change the flores decision. this executive order is not well written, not well thought out. what we need to do is have the president enter family separation perio...

In one of these detention centers. when the mother resisted she was handcuffed. another woman saying i want to be with my children. the border patrol agents said you will never see your children again. families don't exist here. you won't have a family anymore. is this a trump administration policy that amounts to child abuse? >> this is -- it does amount to child abuse. you're causing trauma to these kids coming into this country. that have rights under international law to seem asy m asylum. these people are fleeing doe messiah -- domestic violence, gang violence. they are causing harm to th...

Security where they process the families that are seeking asy m asylum. they have presented themselves as families and there's an initial room that has series of si cyclone fence and fence post. do you want to call them containers? i call them cages because they look like a cage. >> how big are they? >> about 12 by 12 or 15 by 15. a lot of people crowded into each one. that's not the point here. this is really the same physical set that was used in previous administration administrations. because the press is not allowed in to look, when the press wanted me to give a physical description, i ga...

Your great grandparents didn't know english perhaps, maybe were rural people, quote/unquote, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to immigrate into the united states. >> then i think there are all kinds of ways you can add value to the united states and people who are hardworking and do jobs that can be dangerous and difficult certainly do add value but you have to obey the law. and if people come in here legally they can't simply be given amnesty. so i think what secretary kelly or chief kelly is taking about is recognizing the law has to be obeyed and we have to make adjustment ins the l...