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>> i'm not on the ice often, ice sports are not most black americans number one thing to do. i know some of us do play hockey, but i found out, i'm actually pretty good at curling, you'll find out tonight, i did fall a few times, but maybe that's something i should do, curling. >> tell us a little bit about the sport because a lot of us became just a little bit familiar during the olympics, but it's still a little foreign to a lot of americans. >> yeah, the thing about curling is that it's a sport that anybody can do of any size or health level. i mean we saw giant, like 6'5" athletic looking ...

But i do think the direction they're leading into is the direction we should be pursuing. >> and a lot of people think that canada may be a milder more polite version of the u.s., what are you learning about canadians that makes it more distinctive from our culture? >> there's more diversity and more people that help strengthen the society. whereas in america, we pay a lot of lip service to that, but it's not embedded in our policies. a lot of people who are pursuing refugee status in this country have moved up to canada and actually are overwhelming canadian refugee system because they think ...