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On my show a dozen times, and my son works at epa, so i want to be very transparent, but i've been the designated ethics officer at two agencies, and the key opinion is that of kevin minoli, he's the designated agency ethics officer. he's a lifer. he's been there since 2000. gina mccarthy, president obama's administrator made him the principal attorney general at epa. and mr. minoli reviewed the lease and upheld it. it is not in any shape or form a gift. this is about policy, stephanie, as we've talked about on twitter and the vacancy act. specifically, people on the left are upset with scott ...

Reporter at bloomberg news. a great piece of reporting. so you've got this it looks like a sweetheart deal, not a fair market deal that the administrator is taking advantage of. then on the other side, there's business that the lobbyist in question has before the epa that connects to a trip he took to morocco, is that right. >> right to some degree. one of the lobbyist clients is shaneer north korea, really the first company that was exporting liquefied natural gas out of the united states and last december, pruett took a trip to morocco to it out the benefits of u.s. liquefied natural gas. it...

Have you here now about all these things i've seen. i don't know. i've never been the administrator of the epa. but a 30-person security detail 24 hours seems like a lot to me. am i wrong? >> i had two. i didn't have 30 with me full-time when he was governor. had you four who traveled with you and two that went ahead and somebody at the house. but you never traveleded with that many. and i certainly never had a private phone booth put into the office at epa. there is a room downstairs at the agency that is totally soundproof if you need to be in that kind of a situation. but there's so many th...

To order a $31,000 dining room set for his office. the swampiest is pruett who now leads the epa, theation he sued 14 times when he was oklahoma attorney general and who is now reportedly on the verge of rolling back rules requiring cars to be cleaner and more efficient. pruett is supposed to fly coach when he conducts government business but he's taken dozens of domestic and overseas flights supposedly for security reasons though the threat turned out to be passengers shouting at him what he's doing to the environment. that's the beginning. the epa spent nearly $43,000 to install a soundproof...

Would cause challenges down the road. it wasn't submitted to ethics officers till the news broke yesterday. it was at that time that ethics officials were briefed on the details of the arrangement. epa staff had to go get some of the documents in question, the lease and the canceled checks and so it was then there was this review that culminated in the memo released today. >> there's reporting from cnn at this hour that the white house is frustrated with epa's pruitt for the apartment controversy and pruitt's goose is cooked. do you have anything how this is being received at the white house. ...