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Trump is sort of testing the waters. essentially, to see whether or not he's going to get away with it. what we've seen in response has been pretty much nothing. sort of shrugs from republicans but they really are not drawing firm lines around trump pardoning individuals who are drem implicated in this investigation. >> the times is reporting that no, they're not going to do it. they talked about it but he's not considering it. he told ainsley earhart at fox, well, there's a possibility. so there is a disconnect there, kaitlin, with the reporting on this. >> there is. that's what rudy guiliani...

For social media that teaches people this will replace that, so stop hurting people. >> dana: i love this mass for social media. you had a great time. >> i did special report with brett in d.c., he's a jolly foally and molly and jonah and myra. never try to maybe everybody. >> dana: you had a good time. >> it was great and i did a couple of talk shows, too. at fox it's unusual to see somebody plugging a book. >> dana: doesn't happen very off. >> right, so people are shocked and surprised to see me here plugging a book that's a collection of all of my monologues, which are bursts of thoughts th...

Up in a situation like this, i have a feeling that there would be a lot of people appalled, a lot of people concerned. what's the attitude over at the fox organization? >> you know, i think it's split from the people i talk to. obviously the opinion side, such that it is, obviously the network has a point of view, but the sean hannitys, laura ingrahams, those people obviously are happy with this development. the news people, you know, shepard smith and others, i think are more aghast at this. and you saw, i think, a very telling quote in a buzzfeed article this week that was very critical. it ...

Such allegations. >> tara, is this a liability for president trump? >> no. i mean of all the things that have been liabilities, that we thought would have been lights. this isn't going to be one of them. bill shine is not anthony anthony scaramucci. he worked at fox for many years, he knows what he's doing. trump obviously doesn't care about the scrutiny he's going to get over the sexual harassment allegations and problems at fox. he doesn't care. bill shine, at least is competent, i don't agree with necessarily rewarding someone who engaged in what he was in engaged in at fox and oversaw. but...

Something like that. but i don't think i'm going to be so specific. >> join now live we have a former clerk for justice kennedy. welcome, sir. >> thank you for having me on. >> appreciate it. let's start with roe versus wade. the president actually in the third and final debate moderated by our own chris wallace at fox, chris started all in the supreme court and asked about roe versus wade. the president said he will actively try to overturn it but says he expected two or three pics on the supreme court and would pick pro-life justices. the president said at the time if you check the transcrip...