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it was very shocking that somebody i know. very heart breaking. i never thought it could happen in any town, or especially someone that i know at all. >> reporter: despite the social media posts, an uncle who lived with the suspect told cnn his nephew was not violent. >> the warning signs, i saw him yesterday evening, and i went home, and i said, i went down stairs and said bye. that was it. that was it. i see no, nothing that could trigger him doing that. >> the weapon, do you have any idea where -- >> i'm not sharing that, no. >> reporter: despite what this uncle say, we now know t...

>> he was very quiet. he didn't talk that much, and when he did talk, he seemed very gentle. he didn't seem like aggressive or anything at all. it was very shocking that somebody i know. very heart breaking. i never thought it could happen in any town, or especially someone that i know at all. >> reporter: despite the social media posts, an uncle who lived with the suspect told cnn his nephew was not violent. >> the warning signs, i saw him yesterday evening, and i went home, and i said, i went down stairs and said bye. that was it. that was it. i see no, nothing that could trigger h...

Country that we had when the ban was allowed to expire, including the weapon that was used yesterday, and very nearly -- not, it did threaten the life of paul and his two children, including his child with special needs. so he -- i know talking to him, he was reflecting on that. and how angry he was that -- that -- went for naught after ten years and we face what we face today. >> david, i go back to your original statement about per p perpetually flying the flags half most. thank you for tonight, appreciate it. >> thanks. i want to turn to former atf

Been authenticated and verified from law enforcement directly to cnn. jeremy, thank you so much traveling with the president. on the phone right now with me a cnn law enforcement analyst and former atf executive. good both of you could be with me. let's talk about the intricacies of how this investigation moves forward. matthew, we know that atf is on the scene. you formally with your experience with atf, what will be their focus there at the church? >> well, they are going to be supporting incident command. i'm assuming fbi is leading the investigation. this is one complex crime scene with ...

Guzman. revealing the secret meeting and interview in october took place at an undisclosed location in mexico. believed to be guzman's first interview here in decades. anonymous mexican law enforcement official saying this meeting, and other leads helped authorities capture him on friday. let's discuss this now. joining me now, former atf executive matthew horris, joey jackson, brian seltzer. it's not illegal for anybody to go to mexico, but in what way might officials now examine the circumstances that surrounded sean penn and how could that potentially lead to charges? >> good afternoon, fre...