Lieutenant colonel anthony shafer from the center for advanced studies, and atlantic correspondent, jeffrey goldberg, who was co-author of "the ally from hell," a cover story on pakistan that ran in both the "atlantic" movie and the "national journal." tony, how big a deal is this? >> this is big by the fact this is a continuation of the same issues we've been dealing with for the past sen years. i don't believe for a minute that nato fired without provocation on this area. the bottom line is this. we are both daddy warbucks, we pay these bills for these, $2 billion a year to the pakistani arm...