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An even greater majority don't want the government to be shut down because of the demand for while funding. leland: it seems as though vast majority of americans feel we have an immigration crisis on the border. call it what you want they want the border secure. >> that's absolutely correct. a lot of people in congress on both sides of the aisle are concerned about illegal immigration and want to control the borders will want to do so in an effective way. leland: atomics are, why is the law not effective? >> well, as the gao just recently asked lang to eyes in their report, it's very ineffecti...