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I don't i think it is about individual privilege per se, but it is about how that all is rolled up into a government that treats some citizens as clients and some people as targets. >> so, robert, you had to contend with your family's history going back generations, your ancestor general robert e. lee fought for the continuing of enslavement of black people, and what don't people get about the reparations and white privilege, do you think? >> well, i think that one of the things that i don't think that people get is that it is a lot like climate change. there are individual things that we can ...

That's part of, you know, a lot of people do this. i think i look at this from a religious standpoint as well. we can ask forgiveness all we want. in fact, the united states government has asked for forgiveness or at least apologized time and time again, but we have to also be willing to seek atonement, and sometimes seeking atonement means r reparating for the past. >> there have been politicians who have apologized but i don't think an official apology from the u.s. government has happened. van, do mcconnell's answers show a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to have white privile...

Show and to literally put our money where our mouth is. if people are saying that they want to fix racism or they are wanting to fix this issue in the country, then they need to put the money where the mouth is, and that is in the form of reparations. >> interesting. well, how do you do that, because when you say the term privileged, a lot of people say, there is no privilege, and that does not exist. >> well, just because you say something doesn't exist, doesn't mean that it does not exist. that is part of, you know, a lot of people do that. i think that i look at this from the religious stan...

A atonement and make sure there are supporters of her who are angered through this process and people who have been hurt by it. and if her intention was not to do so, you have to govern your language more appropriate. >> i so the second comment, has she apologized adequately. >> i think one of the things i think she ought do is make clear what was being said there. what i heard was that u.s. members of congress are first and foremost loyal to the united states of america and u.s. interests. i think you can say that and at the same time be supportive of zblal let's play exactly what she said he...

He doesn't already confront. two months from now michael cohen is going away to prison for years and he knows it. he seem to have entered a phase of his live of atonement. we'll find out. >> reporte >> the last time he testified before your committee, he lied to your committee. that's why he's going to jail. what will be different this time? >> one of the first we're going to do when we have the opportunity to talk to him the day after tomorrow is to actually set forth where he lied and having explained what the actual truth is in that regard. above and beyond that, just about anybody who has ...