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What sully is saying, is listen, civility and empathy and embrace of facts and embrace of american idealism is just as much an ideology as those you might hold in the areas of personal finances and personal health care and national security. that is what donald trump has abandoned, and between the two parties, that has never been in question until this administration. >> jennifer, it's hard to think of an american who knows more about command and being in command and the necessary characteristics of someone in command than captain sullenberger and to hear him in effect give up on the possibili...

Compass grounded in competence, integrity, and concern for the greater good. the moral compass seems to be absent. i can't find it when i look at the republican leadership in washington now. >> if it is there, they're not listening to it. they're not looking at it. >> what do you think, if you could have a moment with the president of the united states, if you could have a minute with him, what would you want to tell him about the way he does his job? >> i don't think he's either capable or willing to change. i think he is remarkably incurious, and doesn't value learning. instead of talking to...

David jol -- jolly what was that like as a way of stimulating the vote for the democratic candidate. that's a first for you? >> it is, and i never thought, lawrence if i was going to be named dropped by a president that i would be excited to hear from president barack obama. but look, what i'll tell you also, president obama's words challenged me when i heard those because, look, it is true and andrew gillum and i don't agree on much, but compared to where the republican is there are issues i am in more agreement with and medicaid expansion, expansion of health care access for all and specific...

For you? you have lived your life without being public politically, most people do. most people go their entire lifetimes without making a public political statement, and for people who have to do it the first time, i've always noticed that it is uncomfortable and awkward to put it mildly? >> not at all. it's freeing. it's necessary. it's useful. it is my duty. >> would you be able to sit back and watch this process and watch this election process without responding to that sense of duty? a lot of people do. a lot of people feel the way you feel but they don't feel they have a duty to speak pu...

Republican support if it fell below 90, i was in trouble. i think that's something we're going to be able to look back at after tuesday and measure what was the attrition among republicans. i think the weakness for ron desantis is their internal numbers are probably hovering at 90 or a little low, and why andrew gillum might be the next governor of florida. >> a strange entry into the campaign today, a fundraising e-mail from melania trump, and in that fundraising e-mail she says and of course she didn't write a word of this. that's not the way this is done. professionals wrote it for her, but...