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Decisive victory. >> i think that joe biden tonight came out of the blocks on offense as if he knew exactly what he had to do. this isn't going to be a night of being lethargic. i'm going to take it to him on the facts. we're going to get right to the economy and go right at it. in fact, you could see him change his demeanor a little bit and pick up the passion when they got to the subject of the economy after they talked about libya. it's like he was waiting for this. to say things that weren't said last week, because the president kept debunking the lies of mitt romney. it in the wheel house...

Speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people out there. i love charleston. a lot of people -- rather charlotte because in charlotte you heard an entire political party speaking led by people like deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts, after you saw mr. mayor. i think it sounds better when it's a serenade than when it's a solo. what do you think about that? beca...

I mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people out there. i love charleston. a lot of people -- rather charlotte because in charlotte you heard an entire political party speaking led by people like deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts, after you saw mr. mayor. i think it sounds better when it's a serenade than when it's a solo. wh...

>> what ryan has to do is not make a mistake and it will help him to be on the same platform as biden as, frankly it helped mitt romney not taking anything away from his performance and it helped him to be even with the president and help him more that he was assertive and the president seems cool and passionless but, i'm yet to be convinced that i vice presidential debate, even a strong performance like bentsen's ultimately moves the horse race, because i think people vote for president. >> arthel: they do but we're talking about the vp debates and we will keep going with this. how do you thi...

White working class voters, it's also with older voters. he connects in a really profound way with catholic voters of all ages, jewish voters. he's got an incredible tie with that community. there are a bunch of places that barack obama has trouble or at least is not as strong, where joe biden fits really complementary with him and he's going to be in a lot of places where the president really needs to win. he's going to be in pennsylvania, in ohio, in florida for a lot in the next two months. i think the bits and pieces of that speech you saw last night are going to be the joe biden stump spe...