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A dummy vest. it was made up to look like something real in order to deter people from tackling him. so i think in all of these attacks, even if there's only a single individual involved, so far the case at the moment is a that there's only a single individual involved in the attack itself, but there's always a bit of organization behind. one thing that is difficult about modern terrorist attacks in the uk is that they have learned, the terrorists have bermed over time that the more they communicate, the more electronically they're to be picked up before they get to the point of attacking. a l...

Controversy. >> absolutely, i see it as being something that if you imagine if this had been a guy in a maga hat who beat up a new york times reporter or cnn reporter i think that people on the left would have covered it a lot more than they did, now, the left-wing outlet did cover it, they did say they never condone violence but in the same breath, well, he's provoked them, et cetera, et cetera, i think when someone is beaten so badly they go to the hospital, it should be this is not okay full stop. >> right, let's put up a little bit of cell phone video of the attack itself, you can't see ev...

Controversy. >> absolutely, i see it as being something that if you imagine if this had been a guy in a maga hat who beat up a new york times reporter or cnn reporter i think that people on the left would have covered it a lot more than they did, now, the left-wing outlet did cover it, they did say they never condone violence but in the same breath, well, he's provoked them, et cetera, et cetera, i think when someone is beaten so badly they go to the hospital, it should be this is not okay full stop. >> right, let's put up a little bit of cell phone video of the attack itself, you can't see ev...

Been military grade material where they would have to have access to that. very easily and readily available items that could be put together by almost anybody. >> obvious destruction. sometimes the point of terror is not the attack itself, but disruption to the economy or people or the fear it spreads. one wonders in the person watching this coverage yesterday and maybe worried about copycats and concerned of more devices. >> absolutely. there could be devices in the mail system that didn't arrive yesterday and will be delivered today or the next day or some time in the future. you are right....