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Misogynistic, i guess, to think that dads shouldn't also be home. it feels homophobic to suggest that you were trying to figure out breast-feeding. i mean, it feels dirtier than that. how does this attack land for you and chasten? >> look, this attack is coming from a guy who has yet to explain his apparent approval for the assassination of harvey milk, so obviously we know there's some dark places where some of these attitudes come from. but i also note that that doesn't speak for the country. i don't think that even speaks for most people on the other side of the aisle from the party that i ...

College, former flight attendant, former city council women. jonathan, did this attack land in the way that elizabeth warren hoped? >> initially, it did, but as time goes on and people think about it and as the op-ed writer, you know, put down on paper, it doesn't hold up. the key line in that op-ed, craig, that people should zero in on comes in sort of later in the piece, where he -- where the op-ed writer points out that, yeah, people there were asked to max out in order to be there. it's $2,800. how did that -- the op-ed writer get to that wine cave fund-raiser? he maxed out, over time. the...