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Something that is utterly ridiculous and absurd to attempt to change the narrative, attempt to change our focus from stormy daniels to whatever it is he seems fit so we're not talking about the alleged affair by this woman or alleged payout by his person or attorney. >> you were probably listening to the discussion with barbara mcquade. what is your reflection on the statement she was making about why the legal team is in flux, since we're talking about the two cabinet secretaries which seems also to be in question here? >> well, i think the legal team is in flux because of their client, right...

I bet they'll just end up subpoenaing -- >> ryan, it is reminiscent of the campaign when candidate trump kept talking about a rigged system. that seems to be sort of now all the institutions are rigged against him. >> all rigged against him. that's probably why he liked this new lawyer, who has been on fox news saying that the entire investigation is rigged, and it's a conspiracy at the fbi to frame donald trump. look, this legal team, as gloria has been reporting, has deny divided for months now between those on the sort of ty cobb wing of the team, who wants cooperation, no crazy tweets, and...

Against him. >> all rigged against him. that's probably why he liked this new lawyer, who has been on fox news saying that the entire investigation is rigged, and it's a conspiracy at the fbi to frame donald trump. look, this legal team, as gloria has been reporting, has deny divided for months now between those on the sort of ty cobb wing of the team, who wants cooperation, no crazy tweets, and the other side of the team, who has been -- and some of the outside political advisers who have been saying you've got to go out there. you've got to do what caputo is saying. you've got to work the re...

Can to signal to his client rein it in. we have a battle between the id and the super ego and the president's the id. >> my late grandfather was a criminal defense attorney and he had a client who was sort of trump-like and he said to the judge one day, your honor, it's not my fault my client was an idiot and did everything he shouldn't have done. that's what donald trump is doing. lashing out at bob mueller directly. now hiring a guy to attack mueller. he thinks this is a pr war and when he meets with mueller he'll be able to charm his way out. bob mueller and his legal team are the legal dre...

Topics/questions. >> it's getting closer and closer. >> that mueller might be asking. i believe the president kind of freaked out by it and he was willing to sort of stay the course, not attack mueller, be on good manners, as his lawyers wanted him to be, as long as he thought the investigation was going to be concluded in the near future. >> okay. >> i think when these events occurred, and this is from reporting not just my thinking, sources tell me that when these events occurred, the president took a look at it and said, wait a minute, this isn't going away and he went ballistic and basical...