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He's got the most enthusiasm. but, i don't know that you can translate that into a victory. because remember, the caucuses are january 3rd. a lot of the college students will be on their christmas break. so, he definitely has a following out he. and i could tellou, there are a lot of young people that are really disappointed with obama. he promised to be somebody that would bring america together, and his campaign is just the opposite. tear people apart, att and his campaign is just the opposite. tear people apart, attack people. we need a leader that's going to bring people together. ron paul...

An upset winner there? >> well, he's got the most bumper stickers. he's got the most yard signs. he's got the most enthusiasm. but i don't know that you can translate that into a victory because remember the caucuses are january 3rd. a lot of the college students will be on their christmas break. so he definitely has a following out here. and i could tell you, there are a lot of young people that are really disappointed with obama. he promised to be somebody that would bring america together, and his campaign is just the opposite. tear people apart, attack people. we need a leader that's going...

Control? >> you're actually doing pretty well for who i'm authorized to talk about. >> the full interview tomorrow night, on "rock center." your point there, ted, is that we've got a big footprint and a lot could still happen in iraq. >> the point is ron paul was almost right last night. do you remember one of the overlooked points in the debate? he spoke of the 17,000. he spoke about civilian contractors who are still in iraq. we do have 17,000 people still in iraq. they're not all civilian contractors, but a great many of them are. you've got a consulate in basra, a consulate, the one in bas...

That than divide the american people. we need a leader, somebody that's going to put america back on the right track, somebody like ronald rag p. there's nobody that's perfect. >> so who's like him? who's like him out there? >> well, i think, people like -- first of all, i think each of the candidates had their moment last night and did well. and people like the fact that ronald reagan told it like it was. i was an early reagan supporter here in 1976. i'm proud of the leadership that he provided for this country under the malaise that we were under back under jimmy carter, and we had a preside...