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Grievously wounded in that north korea will attack seoul, south korea and tens, hundreds of thousands of people could die. number two, you pressure china really hard in a way that risks our bilateral relationship with china which is hugely important economically, strategically in all kinds of ways. or you bargain. and mike pence did say today or yesterday, he did hold out the possibility that we could have talks with north korea. but we're going to have to make some really grievous, painful concessions if we do that and set a terrible precedent for other ocountries that might want to start a n...

>> in the piece we showed that you wrote about, you cited it could be simple incompetence. do we put too much stock in the polish for them to attack california and not enough focus on what they can do right on the korean peninsula, specifically that they could attack seoul. >> they can attack seoul with both nuclear and nonnuclear assets. and this is the reason this problem hasn't been solved in the past 20 years. the distance between the northern and the demilitarized zone where you saw mike pence visiting earlier today, and downtown seoul, one of the most prosperous cities in asia, is about ...

And i think that's dangerous, because that will signal to the north koreans, hey, they better do something first before we take them out. fundamentally, fundamentally, kim jong un believes these weapons that he has, his nuclear capabilities, his missiles are the guarantors of his survival. if he thinks his survival is under threat, he will use those weapons. dheel so p he'll do so prematurely and then we'll be at war. >> michael, what are the good options to solve this, to cool it down before a shot can be fired or before south korea has to go on alert? >> brian, i don't see any good options. ...

We let you go. you have the world stage obviously watching this and hearing about this as well. but asia, china specifically with the president meeting with president xi jinping in florida when these strikes were ordered -- how do you think this might be taken given that and especially with north korea? >> well, i think probably there was something in the administration that this would be a signal to north korea that nobody is going to stand idly by while it builds missiles that could attackhe united states. i think the president's been clear about that. but then again, the question is, a, wha...

Joining us now from seoul, janice mackey frere. let's talk a little bit about the air strikes in syria and how that's playing out in the korean peninsula. what message does that send to the korean peninsula and, more importantly, to allies and enemies across asia? >> well, it will certainly reframe the discussion that presidents trump and xi will be having on north korea. trump has now shown he is willing to use force as a deterrent in problem areas of the world. north korea has certainly been a problem. on a steady run of provocations over the past couple of months, and rex tillerson, when he...