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What we're talk iing. >> he animated the conversation. >> he is selling a false bill to these people. he made people defensive about obama care. >> the guys who get the big interview, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> coming up, president obama defends the affordable care act and says it's more than a website. and what will chris christy's -- and now that wendy davis is running for governor, texas republicans have figured out a way to make it much more difficult for women to vote and other states might do the same thing. and in the rewrite tonight, another episode of are you

Just want to get it to the house where they're going to have a sober conversation about this? you know what's going to happen when it gets to the house, right? >> well, i think -- >> really? i mean, honestly, john boehner's going to put it on the floor and republicans are going to vote for it and it's going to become law? >> well, your cynicism's pretty thick here and i understand that, but i think as we've seen in legislatures across the country, you know, whether it's governor christie signing the toughest antibullching law in the country or senate republicans in new york advancing the freed...

Now that he will never get the republican nomination for president. and that may be true. it may also be the dying gasps of a group that calls itself national -- that's the "n" in nom, nom, nom, but lately they have to go to russia to get any of their ideas put into law. it may that be they're desperate. in thany case, it raises a question of what chris christie is doing and how antigay republicans are to be to aspire to office. jeff cook mccormick is with american unity fund that gets republicans to support at least some gay rights. jeff, thank you very much for being with us. nice to have yo...

Republicans are in favor of same-sex marriage rights in new jersey and they want the governor to stop fighting it. he makes the decision on the day that everybody else who's a rival for his attention, for statewide attention in new jersey is getting great press for supporting these very happy couples that are getting married. isn't it a better idea in his case to say that he has changed his opinion on gay marriage? how can you be the guy who just wants to stop fighting it, even though you're just as antigay as you ever were? >> well, rachel, as you know, tremendous progress that's been happeni...

Today. although the governor strongly disagrees. the people, speaken clearly and therefore same sex marriage is the law. enforces the law as dictated by the new jersey supreme court. while the majority of americans support marriage equality, today's decision might hurt the possible 2016 presidential contenders standing with the -- with only 27% of republicans support same sex marriage. joining me now. and back with us, how does chris christy's choice play? >> i think the main argument if he goes is that he is actually a