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But i'm convinced he doesn't understand ukraine. he may think of ukraine in soviet times or may even think of ukraine in pre-2014 terms. but this is a different ukraine. he has unified ukraine like no other ukrainian leader and it has crystallized into a hatred for him and a hatred for russia and hatred for those russian soldiers who are attacking ukrainians. yes, this is a strongly motivated people, military, nation that is not going to give in, and he -- president putin doesn't understand that. he made a terrible decision, a blunder. it's going to be seen, historically, as a blunder for him ...

Mercy and not attack places where there's children inside. but unfortunately for them, it means nothing. it probably means a target to them. if they say the word "children," i think they intentionally targeted also because russians are indiscriminately attacking ukrainians. >> i just want to point out, no one is attacking russian theaters or where russians are sheltering. i'm not saying they should at all. but this is a one-sided thing. russians are killing ukrainian civilians. it is a one-way direction. >> yes. ukraine's ministry have shown strong resilience, did very well to defend. they wan...