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Out a way, were ut if it's in the public domain and republicans say we should have to use it, democrats saying, no. can't use that. >> that's what happened in the 2016 campaign with the podesta e-mails. flooded out and the public's fear. >> 2016 campaign one instance i believe on the debate stage a candidate specifically referenced -- not the president's, congressional. specifically referenced hacked materials. that would have been a step too far in the current discussions that they're talking about. >> and heidi przybyla, you cover capitol hill. a public case of senator mccaskill, attempted h...

Something that's been lost a little bit as we talked about this idea of foreign assistance to a campaign which is a crime, but it's also a crime for someone, even someone who has been selected for office but not yet been installed to either solicit or to accept an offer of assistance from someone in exchange for doing certain kinds of acts. and here's where it gets interesting. one of those acts that would support a bribery charge would be colluding in a fraud against the united states. and right now bob mueller has a fraud against the united states charge in that russian hacking conspiracy. s...

By russian hacking attempts. don't put it in your ads. don't spend money pushing a claim that was hacked? >> speaking, before i get to that question, speaking of hacking. still stuns me. last week, week before, the republicans voted down a bill that would have added additional money to protect our voting apparatus. talking about hacking into people's e-mails. actually said, no, no. we're not going to spend money to make sure the process of 2018 and '20 going forward is protected. the same technology. hacking is hacking. if we ever get to the point where people are doubting electio elections, i...

This came after we had known that russia had meddled in the election. it's sometng the pdent has been reluctant, bly, to talk about and to acknowledge. and so this, you know, was part of -- >> these were the only tangible actions taken since the attempted hacking. >> exactly. this was part of the sanctions package, as well. so the fact that it's returned in this manner, as the president has not acknowledged the extent to which russia meddled, and will continue as people have testified on these committees. >> extraordinary development. adam, great reporting. thank you. we're going to take a bre...

The documents are heavily redacted and don't appear to shed new light on the case. let's turn to business headlines, where reports are surfacing russia is in the process of ridding its government offices of microsoft software. this comes as microsoft accuses russian hackers of exploiting a recently discovered windows security flaw. cnbc's jeff cutmore joins us from london. this is kind of a hard thing to do, to stop using microsoft software. it's sort of the way everybody in the world does business. >> yeah, absolutely, but it's a long-term plan of president putin to reduce russia's reliance...