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Some of what goes on on a day-to-day basis like a person who becomes a member of the senate or president of the united states? you lose touch with the electorate or customer base you're serving? >> that's why i'm so impressed with president trump, bringing all kinds of people in, listening, attentively, asking questions, he's trying desperately to keep his finger on the pulse, you got to be all over it. yes. >> you were there this week with a group of ceos, so talk to me about that meeting. there's something else i want to ask you, jack, is he enjoying

Things that would pop up in the future. and with social media today, you have to be scenario playing on every level of every possibility because your reputation is a camera shot away. >> is there a political analogy here in that there's a danger when you become the ceo that you're just too far removed from some of what goes on on a day-to-day basis like a person who becomes a member of the senate or president of the united states? you lose touch with the electorate or customer base you're serving? >> that's why i'm so impressed with president trump, bringing all kinds of people in, listening, ...

Constituents are a bunch of sore losers. what do you think? >> it's those who care. as scott was mentioning. our entire republic is based on having different viewpoints and sorting them out in a way that doesn't involve arms. that's the entire premise in the way in which our government was set up. so, i think they're mistaken. i think to scott's point, this is a group, disparate citizens across this country that we need to listen to and listen to attentively. >> you have good political instincts. you've never lost a race. you're pretty great at reading your constituent base. what do you think ...

Packed house on the iowa state fairgrounds people are applauding and attentively listening to each of the potential presidential contenders, jeb busch, chris christie, ted truz, mike huckabee, rick perry, mike santorum and scott walker are trying to make an impression. bush went after obama on his cuba policy just moments ago. >> there's no small business development, all the mythology built up with cuba the simple fact is it looks more like north korea than a country that is emerging towards a freer place. >> reporter: which are also looking for the unscripted moments and we had one earlier t...

We've got bad things happen in the present, and part of them are very much related to the european contagion. although of course he our problems started years ago. look, fiscal policy, you know my wrap. it's really the only game in town. i like what with ben bernanke and the federal reserve are doing to try to lower interest rates to stimulate more investment. but people won't invest if there's not more customers, more orders, more projects that investors who are sitting on the sidelines would view as profitable. so i think there's a sequencing here. first you need a fiscal boost, and i think ...