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Almost every one of their hosts, besides rachel maddow. trump was a sugar boost to them. now that he s gone, the audience is collapsing. everybody in media has seen their audience decline. but it s the liberal side of the corporate media that has really had this collapse because they placed all their bets on trusm and trump and with him gone, they encouraged the audience to believe there s no more reason to pay attention to politics. when they see independent voices being successful aspen shapiro, as ben shapiro, whatever you think of him, i ve had nothing but negative exchanges with him is, they have the instinct to malign and silence you as the way to desperately preserve an audience for themselves and that s so much of what is driving the media commentary about people who are trapped within the corporate system. howie: let s talk about the vaccine debate. you say the widespread claim there s a surge in republican ....