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A third authorization in order to conduct a wiretap of audio communications the nbc reporting dealt with audio communications. i already had knowledge to the first two. the e-mail and tech messages. i know that was going on for a fact. >> earlier, you said you were getting closer to the revelations coming out. can you elaborate? >> well, i want to be careful on what i say. there is a considerable amount of evidence that will come to light in connection with this case. i think that's one of the reasons why you saw mr. guiliani appear on a very friendly show on a very friendly new yorker to try ...

Serious matter particularly since he appears to be threatening the fbi director with their release. any recordings must be preserved by the white house. so based on what we've heard from the white house the reaction in the last 24 hours, press secretary spicer not commenting or elaborating on any of that will it take subpoena power, do you believe, to determine whether there are tapings? >> some of this was a little bit mysterious to me in the sense that, first of all, any recordings made must be preserved. that was a post-watergate reform act. any recordings made inside white house basically ...

Denied it, then years later admitted they did it. >> years later they admitted it but we had transcripts and secretary of state george shultz read them in un security council four days later president reagan released that. i knew after the incident happened. i was at dcs operations and intelligence i had the a close picture within 12 hours. >> admitting to the crime. but what about tonight? now we have audio communications. they've been released by ukrainins who have an agenda but claim they've got these rebels, whatever you want to call them, pro russian-separatists. talking to actual russian...

Denied it, then years later admitted they did it. >> years later they admitted it but we had transcripts and secretary of state george shultz read them in un security council four days later president reagan released that. i knew after the incident happened. i was at dcs operations and intelligence i had the a close picture within 12 hours. >> admitting to the crime. but what about tonight? now we have audio communications. they've been released by ukrainins who have an agenda but claim they've got these rebels, whatever you want to call them, pro russian-separatists. talking to actual russian...

Denied it, then years later admitted they did it. >> years later they admitted it but we had transcripts and secretary of state george shultz read them in un security council four days later president reagan released that. i knew after the incident happened. i was at dcs operations and intelligence i had the a close picture within 12 hours. >> admitting to the crime. but what about tonight? now we have audio communications. they've been released by ukrainins who have an agenda but claim they've got these rebels, whatever you want to call them, pro russian-separatists. talking to actual russian...