a third authorization in order to conduct a wiretap of audio communications the nbc reporting dealt with audio communications. i already had knowledge to the first two. the e-mail and tech messages. i know that was going on for a fact. >> earlier, you said you were getting closer to the revelations coming out. can you elaborate? >> well, i want to be careful on what i say. there is a considerable amount of evidence that will come to light in connection with this case. i think that's one of the reasons why you saw mr. guiliani appear on a very friendly show on a very friendly new yorker to try to get out in front of some of this. because they knew it was only a matter of time that either we were going to reveal it or the u.s. attorneys or investigators from sdny were going to reveal details relating to this. i mean, this was a bombshell. i know i've used that term a number of times, it continues to be the dropping of bombshells in this case. i mean, i could not imagine, i was shocked when mr. guiliani made these admissions last night.