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Development on flight 9525, reports of evidence from the plane's voice recorder that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit just before the plane crashed. back now with pilot karlene pettit on the phone, and paul ginsberg who is a audio expert and glad to have you here and david soucie and don tilman. and what did you think about this? >> well, it is not a scenario that we talked about before, and we had ruled it out quickly, because of the fact that it was a smooth and controlled descent, and ever there was a pilot suicide before it is a quick and abrupt drop and some speculation at ...

>> reporter: the use of the word gun barely audible. but who says it? the police or the man on the ground. even with the audio enhanced, it's unclear, like so much of the case. >> jason joins us now. with further analysis, can they narrow it down even more. >> the audio expert believes with further analysis he can in fact probably be able to extract a little bit more sound out of there, possibly being able to decide who says gun those two extra times. but also, you heard in the early report there, that there are two body cameras there as well. and so conceivably, police have heard this. and pe...

Africa as he's known, reach for the officer's gun. meanwhile, investigators are analyzing images from two police body cameras as well as that cell phone. our jason carroll took the recording to an audio expert to see what it might reveal. here it is. [ gunshots ] >> reporter: key to the investigation in the lapd shooting will not be just what the officers did, but what they say. paul ginsburg is a recorded evidence specialist. he's been in the listening business for 40 years. think of him as an audio archaeologist, a man who digs for sound. >> it's a puzzle. each of my cases is a puzzle. >> re...

Actually hear the word gun four times. someone is using the word gun two more times. >> that's right. >> reporter: barely audible. but who says it, the police or the man on the ground? even with the audio enhanced it's unclear, like so much of the case. >> with further analysis can they narrow it down even more. >> the audio expert believes with further analysis he can in fact probably be able to extract a little bit more sound out of there, possibly being able to decide who says gun those two extra times. but also you heard in the early report there, that there are two body cameras there as w...