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Jason carroll took the recording to an audio expert to see what it might reveal. [ gunshots ] >> reporter: key to the investigation in the lapp shooting will not just -- lapd shooting will not be just what the officers did but what they said. paul ginsburg is a recorded evidence specialist. he has been in the listening business for 40 years. think of him as an audio archaeologist, a man who digs for sound. >> it's a puzzle. each of my cases is a puzzle. >> reporter: first, listen to a portion of that amateur video captured by a by stanner in its original -- bystander in its original form. [ sh...

It comes to vizsibilityvisibility if i can show you the radar, this is something very new now. as we get in close, the thunderstorms disperse. this is fabulous news right now. i mean, a bird's-eye view is showing if we get sunlight, sea fog will burn off. this is the best news we've had in 24 hours. >> i'm very glad to see that. it's interesting you point out that those thunderstorms, ceiling of 53,000 feet. this plane, the ceiling where it can fly is 40,000 feet. there's no getting above that storm. here's another question that we got in from jim. he asked us "why are we not hearing about the...

analyst, a retired air force intelligence officer. audio expert paul ginsburg and former cia operative bob baer. i would like to start with you. there is been a stream of evidence coming from ukrainian intelligence. they've been some of it with me. you have the phone call as the missile system was delivered. you have the video that popi was talking about. being sent back to russia after the plane was shot down and new photographs which we'll share with our viewers shortly that the ukrainians have put out, showing not one but three buk missile systems going back over the border into russia. ...

Continues to go in the vain it is, if you listen to the tape, you don't hear squeaking. i'm not a -- >> i like your audio there. that was nice. >> i'm not an audio expert. my friend was just up here, but if you, let's be honest here, ben ferguson, let's be real. >> well, i mean, again, look at this. you say it's early on, i get that. let's remember, the largest settlement ever, by the justice department on discrimination of renting apartments, this was the guy, the biggest settlement of the time, ever. did the nba bat an eye at it and if the major players went through the clippers organization...

Engine noise at impact and you are no further toward figuring out this mystery. that's my biggest concern, that after all this time, we may be left with that. >> yeah. you can probably hear, according to our audio expert, miles, you can probably hear which engine went out, if the rudder was shaking, that sort of thing. he said there are things you can learn just from the noises in the airplane but the best information will come from hey, we are having trouble, mayday, however. that's the best information and if that went on for seven, eight hours, that's not there. >> well, it's all got to be ...