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To yes on immigration. i'm surprised. i think i'm in the minority of people that think the strategy of no all the time has worked out quite well for the republicans and particularly on the budget stuff, the austerity stuff it has been successful. i'm not quite sure they are changing now. i want to talk about that and talk to someone who has lived decades of struggling for immigrant rights right after this. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families nee...

Get to yes. >> i want to talk about getting to yes on immigration. i'm surprised. i think i'm in the minority of people that think the strategy of no all the time has worked out quite well for the republicans and particularly on the budget stuff, the austerity stuff it has been successful. i'm not quite sure they are changing now. i want to talk about that and talk to someone who has lived decades of struggling for immigrant rights right after this. we loaded it with fast food, sweaty hockey gear, and a smelly dog cage. and parked it at a mall. in texas. for two days. then put a febreze car ve...

It's epic. >> except for kansas city. >> and a couple. he is extremely strong on the austerity stuff. he hasn't come out and said in the long run i'm not concerned about the deficit. just fundamentally reject the premises that it's a problem. >> no one. >> that does so much damage. >> for sets the center. >> to any agenda that you can promote for good policy in the short-term. >> saying he solved the sequester. we will dig into that after this break. mallon brothers magic? watch this -- alakazam! ♪ [ male announcer ] staples has always made getting office supplies easy. ♪

You. the republicans seem to not be able to sort of break their obsession with deficits. if you actually take a look at the numbers, which we did, the deficit -- >> that's not fair. >> you know, just trying to look at the data. what can i say? y you know it better than me. the deficit has been cut in half under president obama essentially. >> the way you should measure the deficit is as a share of gdp. it's gone from 10% in 2009 -- by the way, that's a large deficit as a share of gdp because it had to be. we were in the deepest recession since the great depression. now it's going to be about 3...