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Are not going to encourage free any sort of exchange with your professor. >> laura: people think of school and texas, it's going to be a conservative experience. ut austin -- i love austin. austin fun. a but it's really gone pretty left. is that a fair description of what the university of texas austin is like today? you are brave to be doing what you're doing, i'm glad you're out there, good for you. you are the real trailblazer. but, is it pretty left now compared to what it was, let's say, 20 years ago? >> oh, i think this story proves it all. the leadership on campus reform reports onrt so...

School and texas, it's going to be a conservative experience. ut austin -- i love austin. austin fun. but it's really gone pretty left. is that a fair description of what the university of texas austin is like today? you are brave to be doing what you're doing, i'm glad you're out there, good for you. you are the real trailblazer. but is it pretty left now, compared to what it was 20 years ago? >> oh, i think this story proves it all. the leadership on campus reform reports on some story happening at ut austin, all the times, it seems like every other month. and i think the fact that this wasn...