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No one forced the companies to go over and do business with china. a lot of the ceos, i know many of the financial institutions ceos were cheerleaders for china's autho regime. they woke up and realized their i thinintellectual property was stolen. >> paul: how do you ignore the chinese market? >> there are several large companies that didn't go there. i don't want to let them off the hook. >> paul: you had an arc of reform in china. it stopped. it's gone backwards. so -- >> there's an argument of trade deficit. people that don't understand how these numbers are put together, our former boss, ...

Devil's advocate a little bit. no one forced the companies to go over and do business with china. a lot of the ceos, i know many of the financial institutions ceos were cheerleaders for china's autho regime. they woke up and realized their i thinintellectual property was stolen. >> paul: how do you ignore the chinese market? >> there are several large companies that didn't go there. i don't want to let them off the hook. >> paul: you had an arc of reform in china. it stopped. it's gone backwards. so -- >> there's an argument of trade deficit. people that don't understand how these numbers are ...

>> he got u.n. res lying resolue got a u.n. resolution repealed. the final line is he's a realist and he's been correct throughout the years about the threats to america and he sees them early. he was correct that pyongyang was not going to give up its nuclear program with the six party talks. he went against condoleezza rice, the then secretary of state. >> paul: he was vindicated. >> he has been writing about the nature of the iran regime, why we can't let them have nuclear weapons. he predicted that the u.n. process that was started on syria was doomed to failure. this is a clear-eyed guy w...

Got a u.n. resolution repealed. the final line is he's a realist and he's been correct throughout the years about the threats to america and he sees them early. he was correct that pyongyang was not going to give up its nuclear program with the six party talks. he went against condoleezza rice, the then secretary of state. >> paul: he was vindicated. >> he has been writing about the nature of the iran regime, why we can't let them have nuclear weapons. he predicted that the u.n. process that was started on syria was doomed to failure. this is a clear-eyed guy with a lot of experience who is un...