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of the union" joins me now. also the authorar of a new book. we'll get to your book in a moment. but on this hearing that happened on capitol hill today you hear from ron johnson there. i know you also talked to the national chair of the 9/11 families united earlier today about their view of all of this. this is what they told you. >> what we are trying to do is hold the kingdom, the saudi government, the same house of saud that was in power in 2001, is still in power today, and we need to hold them accountable for september 11th. and this deal that they made in the darkness of the night, they gave us no details today. they couldn't tell us anything about what's coming next. it was just very bizarre. >> jake, given saudi arabia's abysmal, to say the least, human rights record, where does this leave the families who were just in the wake of this entire merger and hearing comments like that from people like senator ron johnson? >> well, they feel betrayed by

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