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They had in the past and equally no surprise that republicans are increasingly skeptical. now, republicans have always been skeptical of the media writ large, the mainstream media as they like to say and for good reason. the mainstream media has been largely liberal for a long time. now, of course, you and i know the rise of fox news has sort of put a dent in that argument because conservatives certainly have a huge platform and position and a big microphone through fox news and -- and conservative radio, conservative digit a. digital. conservatives get heard, is and they are compensated well ...

Politifact says that's the lie of the year. yes, the claim that trump has made over and over again, that russian interference is a made-up story. politifact says that was the biggest whopper of them all. joining me now from washington to discuss this is the editor of politifact. angie, great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> you had so many options to choose from this year so why this one on the list of shame? >> well, it was repeated over and over again by president donald trump. he would say it as a defense of charges against collusion, which i should emphasize we're not saying there w...

People need to act on and that they care about every day? and while, you know, we in the press do have something of an obsession with washington, that the rest of the world and the rest of this country have many, many other incredibly important issues that have to do with their own lives, with employment, with health care. you know, "usa today" network today -- as i mentioned, "usa today" is the flagship. we also have 109 local news organizations. and these local news organizations, half our audience is red. half is blue. they have different political viewpoints, but they share a real interest...

Listen to independent journalism. they see their political identification as part of who they are, and so, no, they are not open, and i don't think fact checkers are going to reach those people, but our reports might reach their friends, their family, people who could influence them and what we're hoping to do as fact checkers is just get accurate, credible, vet the information into the hands of voters so that they can make better decisions about who they want to support and how they want to see the country governed. >> people spreading misinformation or ignoring fact checks, it's not exclusiv...

That he is the only entity that is -- that is trusted by the public. the popular dictator tactic frankly, not to sound, you know, overly dramatic. it is what people do, but with particular -- with particular attention to the press. he is really trying to erolled trust, and it seems to be working. >> he used the "d." word. i've been thinking about the "a" words. autocrassy. there were a lot of concerns earlier in the year about whether we were seeing an authoritarian drift led by trump. frankly, i don't know, the end of the year how much i agree with that or not. what's your take? >> certainly ...