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Automatic excommunication for the truth for advocating grave sin or a person persevering in grave sin of a public nature. if what -- is northam roman catholic? what these guys are doing, i don't get it. why doesn't the catholic church do something? there is no penalty in the view of the catholic church. you can't blame the kids for thinking it's unknow big deal. >> there is another candidate who deals specifically with abortion. you have to be engaged in performing this ugly procedure. i know cuomo would like to be excommunicated. he could claim martyrdom status. the real question here is why ...

That begins in december. we have more from rome. >> reporter: the change by pope francis has made it easier for a woman who's had an abortion to return to the church. previously under church law, abortion carried an automatic excommunication, a ban which could only be lifted by special permission of a bishop. but now the pope says that special permission is no longer necessary and any priest can absolve a woman of the sin of abortion in confession. the pope has not made a change to church teaching on abortion. it is considered a moral evil and still carries the penalty of excommunication but h...

Correspondent live in rome. >> reporter: this is a significant change for pope francis with regard particularly to an issue that has been really a stalwart issue in the last few decades in the catholic church. in particular, what the pope is saying is this, a woman who has had an abortion, according to the catholic church, receives an automatic excommunication. she doesn't have to have a l letter from the vatican. it is automatically assumed. to lift that excommunication, previously you needed to go to a bishop and have the bishop's permission to lift the ban of excommunication. what pope fran...

Place behind closed doors. the gathering begins with a morning mass in st. peter's basilica. in the afternoon the 115 voting cardinals, those under 80 years old, enter the sistine chapel where each will take an oath of secrecy. the penalty, automatic excommunication. after the oath, preparations are made for the election taken by secret ballot. lots are drawn to help select three cardinals to collect the ballots, three more cardinals to count the votes, and three others to review the results. printed on the ballot means i elect as supreme pontiff. each elector writes the name of one candidate ...