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>> but, doesn't he need independence and wouldn't it help if they got some, like if he showed, look, we're making some progress on this, this problem. >> you know, you're asking me to explain barack obama's political strategy, and that's hard to do going all the way back to obama care, which is now one of the most unpopular pieces of legislation that has ever been passed so i can't quite explain barack obama. he has-- i've said many times he has his principles and he wanted those taxes raised on the rich and that was his line in the sand and he wasn't going to get it and now he's going to run ...

Board. >> automatic spending, not until after the election, and we know politicians can't think past the next election for the most part. his more immediate concerns here, the super committee was a side show as far as the white house is concerned. president obama's immediate concern extension of payroll tax cuts and those are coming down the pipe right now and he's much more concerned about that. >> paul: kim, what about the concern, a lot of republicans have over dense again cuts. half of the automatic spending reductions would hit homeland security, pretty severely, so much so even president...