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That sounds a lot like i might run for senate. i'm going to take a tour with pat moynahan and go on a listening tour and see what the people of new york state want. sounds like she's laying the groundwork for another run. >> juan: your fantasies are out of control. no, she clearly said she's not running. i thought it was an expression of truth, that she wishes she was president. she wishes donald trump had lost. that's the truth. >> brian: but you know she also said she wasn't going to run when she was secretary of state. >> juan: that is more run up, but the situation is changed. i am curious...

To him go easy on flynn or anything about flynn. he's saying that i'm talking about their alternative. i'm saying, the conversation never took place. but if it did take place and here's the conversation that's alleged, it is not illegal to have said that. that's what i'm saying, we call it arguing in the alternative. >> it was a little confusing i suppose. >> i appreciate that but i've been asked a question numerous times, that's the answer. if i confused it, i'm sorry. >> i do want to ask you one question about one of your nemesis, michael avenatti -- >> who? >> michael avenat tixt, speaking ...

At the wing ding dinner at the ohio state fair and seriously considering a run for the white house against president trump. wondering what your thoughts are mr. avenatti running for president. >> speaking at the wing nut -- >> wing ding dinner. >> iowa democratic party. >> wing ding dinner. okay. that sounds like the right place for him to speak. he has every right to do what he wants. i think i would settle the bankruptcy situation where he owes 10 million bucks first but hey, it's up to him. >> there's a history of people with bankruptcies in their past running for president -- >> no, no. >>...