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Allow him to diagnose mr. avery as a psychopath. cri kratz says he's undaunted. are you afraid of kathleen zellner? >> no. i'm not involved in the kags anymo case anymore. >> she could unravel your work, if what she's saying has some weight to it. you don't think she has a chance. >> i don't. >> she's so confident. why are you so confident? >> we put 18 months putting this case together. it wasn't just thrown together. it wasn't a bunch of keystone cap kops. it was done very well. >> kratz says heed a v admits t abuse, a scandal that led to his

Welcome to "dateline." it's an extraordinary case that defies easy answers. at the center of it all, steven avery. he and his teenage nephew were convicted in the brutal murder of photograph ee eer teresa hal. two sides, one truth. who will you believe? the mystery of what happened here in rural wisconsin has captivated the country. >> we find the defendant steven avery guilty. >> reporter: in 2013, the netflix series "making a murderer," convicted of murder.

>> i said that's the woman that's going to get steven out of prison. >> she works on wrongful conviction cases and has freed many defends, including ryan ferguson. she joined the case not long after "making a murderer" came out. she paid a visit to avery in early 2016. million-dollar question, do you think you have new evidence that could free steven avery? >> we do, yeah. >> reporter: zellner invited "dateline" into this war room she created in her office outside of chicago, all dedicated to the avery case. >> do we know if that was tested? >> and she even showed us this rav4 she bought to ge...

It's a case "dateline" has been following for a decade. as the lawyers fight for them to be free from prison, we pose the questions that everyone has been asking of the people that put steven avery behind bars. why would steven avery do this? >> that's a good question. >> reporter: we asked ken katz, who wrote a book about this. >> he started planning this event the first day he went to prison. >> reporter: and we talked with a lead investigator of the case, who has come under fire for this silent interrogation. why are you sitting here today? >> i realized that someone needed to speak out to ...

In his mind. >> yes, that's what they said. and there were instances that we did ask him specifically about things, yes. and that can happen in an interview. >> can we take that as a reliable answer given it was spoon-fed to them? >> their side would argue no. and i would say, based on the entirety of the interview, i would say yes. >> and as for the other moment that has angered so many followers of the case. >> i'm going to come out and ask you, who shot her in the head? >> he did. >> any regrets about that? bringing it up yourselves, about putting that in his head? >> there's always things ...