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Wrongful conviction cases and says she's freed 18 defendants, including ryan ferguson. sandy contacted her and she joined the case not long after "making a murderer" came out. we caught up with zellner at the correctional institute when she paid a visit to avery in 2016. >> million dollar question. do you think you have new evidence that could free steven avery? >> we do, yeah. >> zellner invited "dateline" into this war room she created in her office outside chicago. all dedicated to the avery case. >> do we know if that was tested? >> and she even showed us that rav4 she bought to get a bett...

He used the money to hire his defense attorneys, dean strang, and jerry butting. >> we knew going in it was going to be a difficult defense. >> we spoke to butting in early 2016. >> we had a very tough defense in this case, because nobody wants to try and use as a defense that the police deliberately tried to plant evidence or frame somebody. >> it goes against society. those people are there to help us, they're the police. >> right. but it's where we thought the evidence pointed. >> avery's attorneys believed the fact that officers from the county he was suing were part of the search, made fo...

Teen with a low iq. >> how do you spell garage? >> g-a-r-a-g-e. >> what did you think of brendan dassey when you were able to meet him in person? >> brendan is a simple soul. i was struck by his humanity. this is not somebody i could see committing a crime like that. >> that's the psychological power of interrogation. >> the two attorneys are based at the northwestern school of law outside chicago. they've worked to free a number of wrongfully convicted defendants and say what they learned about dassey's case astounded them. >> nobody was in brendan dassey's corner at the moment he needed help...

>> can we take that as a reliable answer given awe it was spoon-fed to them. >> their side would argue no. and i would say, based on the entirety of the interview, i would say yes. >> and as for the other moment that has angered so many followers of the case. >> i'm going to come out and ask you, who shot her in the head? >> he did. >> any regrets about that? bringing it up yourselves, about putting that in his head? >> there's always things that you can improve on. there were instances because of brendan's personality that, yeah, we had to talk to him about and ask more specifically certain q...

>> he has no remorse for his behavior, feels incredibly entitled. >> but as he continued to investigate the case, kratz had a problem. >> you still didn't know how she was killed, exactly where she was killed. was that bothering you? >> yes, but sometimes you have what you have. it was all coming together in bits and pieces. >> he and his team kept digging until they got a big lead. >> have a seat. >> in march, 2006, four months after teresa's murder, tom fassbender spoke with avery's 16-year-old nephew in a series of highly scrutinized interviews. >> what was your opinion of brendan dassey? >...